"You have to give full marks to Tahirul Qadri."
"Why? From being zero in politics to... to..."
"He still could be zero."
"But what about the hundreds of thousands who came to listen to his speech..."
"Ah yes, a tsunami n'est pas?"
"You speak French when you refer to the establishment?"
"It's safer that way and all the establishment parties or those accused of support from the establishment have extended their support to Qadri."
"I agree, and let's be honest the political parties who have extended their support are making rather strange bed fellows."
"Right, so we have MQM and PTI on the same side."
"I remember when MQM had banned Imran's entry into Karachi."
"Those days are long gone, our brown sahib was allowed to have a jalsa in Karachi and lets be honest that is not possible without MQM approval, tacit or otherwise."
"Right, so now what?"
"Now the PPP and PML (N) are together on Qadri's issue but I don't think either party feels politically threatened."
"But PPP and PML (N) have been together on many issues and there is nothing wrong with the two major parties in the country to engage in muk mukaa."
"I agree and let's be honest, muk mukaa is seen as a sign of maturity, look at the UK politics: the Liberal Democrats and the Conservatives have policy differences with each other and yet they are working together. Labour supports the Conservatives on several issues and..."
"The muk mukaa is supposed to refer to everything bad in politics, for example supporting each other's corruption, not proactively investigating charges of criminal and civil wrong doing against each other and..."
"Yes I suppose, but Qadri's choice of words implied that he is either enamoured of the MQM and PTI philosophy or that was a requirement for support."
"Whatever do you mean?"
"Muk mukaa is an expression used by the PTI chief for the PML (N) and PPP and fight against corruption and jagirdari in politics has been the mantra of the MQM."
"Ah, yes indeed, and so now what?"
"Now Rehman Malik is in Karachi trying to get Altaf Bhai to withdraw support for Qadri!" "Hmm, that is telling."